# The Lounge 0001 \[From the Beginning\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [August 27, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64 "2017-08-27T02:44:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1385
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27732 "2019-09-25T01:52:21Z")
> [@dinscurge](#): > > but cliff racers fly so high You can’t go into the mountains of Morrowind without being swooped down on by these fucks ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27733 "2019-09-25T01:52:31Z")
Before ![Screenshot%20from%202019-09-24%2020-50-40](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d37fac77a6129518400a039ef2c4ddd83dd49587.png) After (Somethings have not upgraded textures like weapons, parts of the UI, etc ![Screenshot%20from%202019-09-24%2020-49-53](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2049a9014260db0ac96422e28c82f10b23b5d23d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27734 "2019-09-25T01:54:52Z")
Is that with using that texture pack you downloaded because thats soo much better than before? ---
**Author:** ![dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dinscurge/32/9655_2.png) [@dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/dinscurge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27735 "2019-09-25T01:56:03Z")
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**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27736 "2019-09-25T01:56:03Z")
> [@Michael](#): > > You can’t go into the mountains of Morrowind without being swooped down on by these fucks Anywhere thats considered ashland (Most of the damn map cause your on a fucking volcano) They may fly high and be stupid easy to beat but god damn they are just a nuisance. > [@dinscurge](#): > > nah mean since they arent working on it, probably will run better than actual bethesda games? Daggerfall unity will run on pretty much anything that supports modern OpenGL (2.4 iirc) > [@dinscurge](#): > > but its still a bethesda game so cut and paste etc Its one of the more unique games with one of the biggest maps of all time to this day XD. Oblivion and skyrim were just meh Takes almost 70 hours IRL to walk from one side to the other ---
**Author:** ![dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dinscurge/32/9655_2.png) [@dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/dinscurge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27737 "2019-09-25T01:57:02Z")
\< dunno about unique bethesda usually basic af but that is an older one before they maybe got shittier idk ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27738 "2019-09-25T02:01:01Z")
I mean you can always to more to improve any game. For the time (and partly to this day) its pretty fleshed out. With it being open source i would not be surprised if it got some pretty major graphics overhuals in the near future. Is some people working on 3d characters models already 😃 > [@dinscurge](#): > > but that is an older one before they maybe got shittier idk IMO morrowind was the last great TES game before bethesda stopped trying. Fallout 76 still uses the same engine as morrowind with tweaks added to it. ---
**Author:** ![dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dinscurge/32/9655_2.png) [@dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/dinscurge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27739 "2019-09-25T02:03:54Z")
\< dunno cause bethesda doesnt publish information usually but say techland, you could argue dying light 2 is the same engine as from the first game on the chrome engine, chrome ![](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e479e70f0e1becec143864fe21dcfb0c39f5cd09.jpeg) some scifi shit from 2003 with jon st jon voicing a guy named logan that isnt he douche in the story but they got gud features, like loading 16 threads, per object motion blur etc more advanced graphics stuff ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27740 "2019-09-25T02:06:52Z")
> [@Dje4321](#): > > Is some people working on 3d characters models already I’d soo be up how 3D character models in this game it’d be great and look like a new game entirely. > [@Dje4321](#): > > IMO morrowind was the last great TES game before bethesda stopped trying. Fallout 76 still uses the same engine as morrowind with tweaks added to it. You been the same buggy mess as every Bethesda game but much worse with it being online any everyone exploiting it XD ---
**Author:** ![dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dinscurge/32/9655_2.png) [@dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/dinscurge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27741 "2019-09-25T02:09:51Z")
til the nukes got broke from y2k bug ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27742 "2019-09-25T02:10:50Z")
> [@dinscurge](#): > > but say techland, you could argue dying light 2 is the same engine as from the first game on the chrome engine Never much but the openmw people were able to get the open source engine to load New vegas and oblivion data files with very minimal tweaking. Still would have to add code for stuff like FO:NV guns, vats, etc but thats gameplay code and will change from game to game anyway. Pretty sure valve has put way more work into the source engine that bethesda has. Look how good black mesa looks compared to HL1 or even HL2 XD ---
**Author:** ![dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dinscurge/32/9655_2.png) [@dinscurge](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/dinscurge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27743 "2019-09-25T02:12:31Z")
ye but data file being the same format doesnt mean it has the same render pipeline and stuff, like say if the new ones used dx11 instead of dx9 or 8 etc probably has new features of some sort, but not like they advertise creation engine 2.1 or whatever, but ye does seem they dont do a very good job at updating the engine/adding obviously newer better features ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27744 "2019-09-25T02:16:21Z")
> [@Dje4321](#): > > Pretty sure valve has put way more work into the source engine that bethesda has. Look how good black mesa looks compared to HL1 or even HL2 XD Valve have been known to give extended support to teams using their engine even for modders and have made additions to it based on suggestions they’ve made I’m not so sure Bethesda has ever done any of that before. ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27745 "2019-09-25T02:25:30Z")
> [@Michael](#): > > I’m not so sure Bethesda has ever done any of that before. Looks at SKSE. Yep > [@dinscurge](#): > > ye but data file being the same format doesnt mean it has the same render pipeline and stuff, like say if the new ones used dx11 instead of dx9 or 8 etc Ye. Render pipeline seems to have been improved but its still not great > [@dinscurge](#): > > probably has new features of some sort, but not like they advertise creation engine 2.1 or whatever, but ye does seem they dont do a very good job at updating the engine/adding obviously newer better features Very little. The most notable improvement that comes to mind is godrays but that was the stupid nvidia thing that just tanked the FPS for no good reason ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27746 "2019-09-25T02:27:24Z")
> [@Dje4321](#): > > Very little. The most notable improvement that comes to mind is godrays but that was the stupid nvidia thing that just tanked the FPS for no good reason In fallout 4 I went inside a small boxed house and my FPS tanked from like 60-70 outside to sub 20 solely because of the godrays in the windows XD ---
**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27747 "2019-09-25T17:55:56Z")
So, I ordered 10 books from Amazon. They arrived on Monday. I don’t have the complete set yet cause they keep packing em like shit and shipping personnel doesn’t care. To help myself keep track of all the replacement shipments I decided to make a chart. Enjoy my pain. ![flow%20chart](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/2X/e/ea9541af4c4d956f8138a187d93e08a1edbd4fcf.jpeg) Diamonds = damaged Circles = okay Blank = replacement not arrived yet Squares = new order, wouldn’t provide a replacement, only refund. It’s a flawed chart, though. I got a total of 3 packages so far, 18 books, of which only 4 books aren’t damaged. ---
**Author:** ![wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/wolfleben/32/6298_2.png) [@wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/wolfleben)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27748 "2019-09-26T01:46:46Z")
I’ve made my lyrically playlist: Here is the list by Artist - Song Imagine Dragons - Friction Zach Hemsey - The Runner Poets of The Fall - Given and Denied Poets Of The Fall - Heal My Wounds Poets Of The Fall - Standstill Poets Of The Fall - My Dark Disquiet Poets Of The Fall - Angel Les Friction - String Theory Les Friction - Your World Will Fail Les Friction - Dark Matter Les Friction - This Is a Call Within Temptation - Hand Of Sorrow Within Temptation - The Truth Beneath The Rose Within Temptation - Pale (Album Version) Poe - Haunted Muse - Explorers You’d get the idea of the theme of the playlist by listening to any of the songs on this list. Though to get the whole of it, you’d have to listen to the songs in the order I listed. ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27749 "2019-09-26T02:10:12Z")
Dont you have like a BBB? (Better Buisness Bureau) ---
**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27750 "2019-09-26T02:33:45Z")
An independent organization rating businesses? None that I know of. We only have “Konsumentenschutz” which you can contact if a seller doesn’t follow the law (usually shady business practices). But that doesn’t really help in my case. Amazon provides either a replacement, refund or price cut, which is fine. The items getting damaged so often and causing me trouble probably doesn’t concern anyone. It’s just annoying and as soon as this order is complete I’ll refrain from buying there for some time if I can avoid it (i.e. can get it for a reasonable price somewhere else). In this case I can’t really get the books from somewhere else for a reasonable price. Thalia (the big book store chain that kinda replaced all the small book stores) only has volumes 4, 6, 8. And the books are niche enough to not being able to get them ordered by any of the existing smaller book stores. Comic shops here don’t sell light novels. The only alternative would be buying them from an online store in another country (like rightstuf) and then pay a customs fee on top of expensive international shipping. And even then I doubt that all books would undamaged. But it goes to show how much Amazon has replaced and cut out retail stores. I’d have no idea where I can buy a 100 pack of earplugs. Bags of this size aren’t a thing. And on top of that I’m saving quite a big amount when I order a 100 pack from Amazon instead of buying 10x 10 packs from a local supermarket. And the retail stores just can’t compete with Amazon when it comes to variety. Obviously, as they can’t put everything on shelves that Amazon has in giant warehouses. I’ve been to a weird “retail” store once where you basically log in at a PC there like you would at home with your account, select the items you want to buy by putting them in a shopping cart, then virtually place your order and then go to the desk in the store where they then get up and look for the stuff you just ordered online in the small warehouse. It’s fucking retarded. It’s like those kiosks at McDonalds but with electronics and stuff. And it’s not like they have everything in stock. And it doesn’t tell you at the online store if they have it in stock or not. Oh, and you _have_ to follow this procedure. ---
**Author:** ![r00tz31820](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/r00tz31820/32/14225_2.png) [@r00tz31820](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/r00tz31820)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/27751 "2019-09-26T03:11:08Z")
so you talk with normal GRAMMUUUH here … lol wtf din haha Also yeah buddy… definitely the best vote for me ![image](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/2X/7/792d62fc0f8a3b48c6d4e5af0048135ba0118871.png) inb4 he doesnt remember that im heimdallr [Previous page](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64.md?page=1384) [Next page](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64.md?page=1386)