# The Lounge 0001 \[From the Beginning\]

**URL:** <https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [August 27, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64 "2017-08-27T02:44:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/wolfleben/32/6298_2.png) [@wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/wolfleben)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7263 "2018-02-17T18:00:43Z")

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I started rewatching The Expanse. Good stuff.

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**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7264 "2018-02-17T18:01:47Z")

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I really need to start watching that. Brother has and said its great but I haven’t got to it yet.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7265 "2018-02-17T18:03:10Z")

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good show

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**Author:** ![wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/wolfleben/32/6298_2.png) [@wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/wolfleben)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7266 "2018-02-17T18:03:13Z")

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I haven’t read the books it is based off of. The pacing for the show is perfect. The way things come together and the consequence of actions is played out well.

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**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7267 "2018-02-17T18:05:44Z")

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At least indie devs seem to care about their customers.  
When I bought Hollow Knight I had trouble with the XBOne X controller driver messing with the controls and I emailed the devs about it. Now, keep in mind that Team Cherry - who made Hollow Knight - is a small team from Australia (2 guys are listed on their website), and yet they took time and walked me through the process of downloading the correct driver (there are 2) for Windows 8.

And on the other hand there’s dozens of screencapped conversations of big companies who seem utter incompetent floating around the internet.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7268 "2018-02-17T18:08:07Z")

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Most games I buy these days are indie, I been disappointed by fewer indie then AAA, plus I can get 2-4 indie games for the price of one AAA game

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**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7269 "2018-02-17T18:12:15Z")

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> [@Main\_Main](#):
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> for the price of one AAA game

But games are so expensive to make. Big companies can’t survive without putting a $60 pricetag on the basic game ($120 for the super duper digital virtual surreal VIP deluxe collectors limited advanced edition), $20-30 on the season pass, $10-20 per DLC, $5 micro-transactions and ICONIC merch.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7270 "2018-02-17T18:12:59Z")

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I know i’m just cheap

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**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7271 "2018-02-17T18:13:25Z")

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Nothing wrong with being cheap

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7272 "2018-02-17T18:13:44Z")

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you are a wise man

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**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7273 "2018-02-17T18:16:06Z")

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Has nothing to do with being cheap - imo.  
They advertise their games like they’re the best ever made and all you get is some reheated, soggy meal with a facelift.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7274 "2018-02-17T18:16:36Z")

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Like mass effect Andromeda, I regret buying it

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**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7275 "2018-02-17T18:19:31Z")

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> [@Main\_Main](#):
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> I regret buying it

But you can’t say that. It means the devs - not the publisher - will get dragged behind the house with a shotgun. Cause it’s obviously their fault for doing exactly what the publisher told them to make.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7276 "2018-02-17T18:21:58Z")

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I’m one hundred percent on the fuck EA train, I’m not a fan of how they’ve handled bioware

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**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7277 "2018-02-17T18:22:54Z")

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> [@Main\_Main](#):
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> the fuck EA train

And Ubisoft.  
And Microsoft.  
And Konami.

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**Author:** ![wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/wolfleben/32/6298_2.png) [@wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/wolfleben)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7278 "2018-02-17T18:25:09Z")

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I personally am pleased that Hellblade sold and has sold better in a shorter time. The game was made by 20 people over three years. The devs took a risk to do it. They believed there was a middle ground between AAA and Indie:

[http://www.hellblade.com/the-independent-aaa-proposition/](http://www.hellblade.com/the-independent-aaa-proposition/)

Ninja Theory has also offered and public stated hey we did it. We’ll be happy to tell you how we did it and give you our playbook if you want to try doing this with your own dev studio.

Do you know what would happen if an actually AAA publisher had heard the pitch for Hellblade -  
They would have buried it where the sun won’t shine or altered it so much it would have diluted the original pitch.

I want other devs to go that route. Take the risk and make good interesting games. Time will tell.

As for Ninja Theory I’m curious to see what they do next.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7279 "2018-02-17T18:25:37Z")

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What major publish hasn’t done something shitty in some way lately

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**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7280 "2018-02-17T18:26:01Z")

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bethesda is on a pretty good role

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7281 "2018-02-17T18:28:08Z")

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True, but they need to fix or make a new engine. also I felt fallout 4 was rather lacking but i still mostly enjoyed it.

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**Author:** ![Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/main_main/32/9727_2.png) [@Main\_Main](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Main_Main)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/7282 "2018-02-17T18:29:31Z")

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> [@wolfleben](#):
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> Ninja Theory

Indie devs got some great names

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