# The Lounge 0001 \[From the Beginning\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [August 27, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64 "2017-08-27T02:44:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thediddilyhorror/32/10712_2.png) [@TheDiddilyHorror](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/TheDiddilyHorror)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1421 "2018-01-01T00:05:45Z")
> [@Michael](#): > > let the shit show of 2018 begin? Who’s gonna die or rape this year? Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![ThatBootsGuy](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/thatbootsguy/32/9714_2.png) [@ThatBootsGuy](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/ThatBootsGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1422 "2018-01-01T00:07:40Z")
![image](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/1X/2c75a2432937d4b12241bf26632b387b782c066d.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1423 "2018-01-01T00:15:45Z")
![image](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/1X/29e43c2d6b5935a40aaddae19d48da090f244773.jpg) also i dont remember where the full version is but still: ![image](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/1X/b02f72a05bf14978065816ce62adcb61c10866de.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/wolfleben/32/6298_2.png) [@wolfleben](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/wolfleben)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1424 "2018-01-01T00:19:59Z")
2018… should be interesting. I’m curious to as to how far I’ll get with my writing by March. I’m aiming for having this draft done by then and will work for that. Also curious as to what the game industry is going to do this year. Wait and see mostly there. Movies will likely be meh this year. ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1425 "2018-01-01T00:34:05Z")
im mostly excited for zen+ and vega 2 or navi, ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1426 "2018-01-01T00:39:37Z")
yep. I’m somewhat more excited for news on vega 2 or navi though. zen+ is an incremental improvement and by all respects should be great given AMDs recent track record with Ryzen but vega2/navi on the otherhand could be quite interesting given how vega was received. ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1427 "2018-01-01T00:41:58Z")
vegas main problem was that the HBM2 was expensive. if they made a GDDR5 version that was $50-$100 cheaper it would have been alot better ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1428 "2018-01-01T00:49:23Z")
Yep. do you think AMD have learned there lesson with that? My take on it is that they should’ve released the FE as the only Vega card with HBM2 as it would make sense for a “premium” card given the type of workloads it was meant for and a cheaper Rx Vega for the gaming market. ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1429 "2018-01-01T00:59:45Z")
Or just used GDDR5 and not had supply issues… Again. Because this happened with Fiji too lol… And really the HBM2 isnt even that much better currently. Especially considering how fast the actual GPU is. But they used HBM and now there’s not a single vega to be found except from scalpers rip ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1430 "2018-01-01T01:01:04Z")
Yep. GDDR5 version would be nice but would also be cool if they had a version of the card that was HBM2 also ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1431 "2018-01-01T01:20:04Z")
In my mind vega is as bad a launch as Bulldozer but partially due to the fact AMD was blamed for the whole pricing shenanigans when that really was retailers upping the prices. Ignoring that its still pretty … At best meh? If the cards stay at retail they are great (if power hungry) but that was at launch. Now that its (almost) 2018 theres going to be new tech that displaces them, even if its just another refresh from Nvidia or something more from either AMD or nvidia so yeah. /endtinirant But would have been nice to see a desktop version of the thing thats in the XboxX, it has 40 CUs (which is more than the 36CUs in the RX 580). Would have been a nice 585 esque card. But that wasnt a thing lol. ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1432 "2018-01-01T01:24:45Z")
I am looking forward to next year CPU wise if not GPU wise tho. ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1433 "2018-01-01T01:39:02Z")
> [@Cavemanthe0ne](#): > > But would have been nice to see a desktop version of the thing thats in the XboxX, it has 40 CUs (which is more than the 36CUs in the RX 580). > > Would have been a nice 585 esque card. > > But that wasnt a thing lol. I’m not so sure on that. wasn’t that a semi custom design for Microsoft and I don’t know if there’s even a place in the market for a card like that. its very much akin to Nvidia’s Ti lineup where they release a slightly better card halfway through a product cycle which I don’t agree with. If they can produce a better GPU on the same node they should release it as their flagship card at launch instead of holding it back to sell it for a higher price later. ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1434 "2018-01-01T01:47:58Z")
It would be around 11-15% faster than an RX 580 if at the same clock speeds. Which, if it was at say $260ish MSRP instead of the $230 MSRP RX 580 was supposed to be at would have been quite nice. Would _definitely_ have been a worthy upgrade for my 390 instead of… meh? which is the RX 580 this assuming it could be a thing though from what I can tell it’s more like two 20 CU cards in Xfire based on how the compatibility and so on works… then again it might just be only using half the power lol ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1435 "2018-01-01T01:49:35Z")
your forgetting about memory contention since the GPU is basiclly a APU ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1436 "2018-01-01T01:51:19Z")
I don’t disagree that the card should exist just that if it did it should’ve been the RX 580. anyway as far as I’m aware the gpu in the XBox was a custom build for Microsoft and wasn’t designed in anyway to be used for consumer cards. ---
**Author:** ![Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/dje4321/32/7355_2.png) [@Dje4321](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Dje4321)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1437 "2018-01-01T01:52:13Z")
only thing special about it is the fact that it has the microsoft name on the die and that fact that his has a cpu next to the GPU ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1438 "2018-01-01T01:55:46Z")
yep. > [@Michael](#): > > wasn’t designed in anyway to be used for consumer cards. also maybe? just look a the Tonga based R9 M395X or whatever the hell it was called in the 5K imac which never was in a different product again (which was a fully enable 2048 core Tonga GPU at like 95watts instead of the R9 380 which was 175 watt iirc and they do more or less similar performance despite the power use difference) ---
**Author:** ![Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/cavemanthe0ne/32/8893_2.png) [@Cavemanthe0ne](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Cavemanthe0ne)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1439 "2018-01-01T01:58:54Z")
> [@Cavemanthe0ne](#): > > also i dont remember where the full version is but still: more like real one but … haha ![image](https://forum.0cd.xyz/uploads/default/original/1X/3a8001341c009ea0ea8e4856b9f775531d1e59d2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/user_avatar/forum.0cd.xyz/michael/32/9677_2.png) [@Michael](https://forum.0cd.xyz/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64/1440 "2018-01-01T02:00:12Z")
I stand corrected then. if that is so AMD must’ve not of had those available at the launch of the 500 series? otherwise why would they use the die with 36 CUs instead for their flagship? unless Microsoft reversed those for the Xbox One X making none available for the 500 series. [Previous page](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64.md?page=71) [Next page](https://forum.0cd.xyz/t/the-lounge-0001-from-the-beginning/64.md?page=73)