old one looks weird kinda more copper and stuff obv, but whats with the separate blocks on left bottom and left top instead of one long one with more heat pipe contact
new one looks more overall heatpipe contact atleast
Upgraded my MBP to 6gb, it doesnât like 8gb though there is a firmware upgrade for it that will allow it since this is a late 2008. Will see about that but still 6gb is much nicer than just 4g
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Just noticed that Im pretty sure thereâs supposed to be backlighting on this keyboard ⌠but there isnât lol. Meh. Also, Civ V seems to run reasonably well, 40ish to 50fps at 1440x900 at low/medium.
Like 20-30 in loading screen etc
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ye but how long does a turn take? 
I have my 480gb ssd in it so not long lol
lol meant the meme where it was a cpu bench forever cause does bunch of wasteful animations and dumb stuff at stock settings that takes forever unless you have one really high speed core
Zen2 is definitely something to get used to.
The initial benchmarks were great, but I didnât look at the temps. 4.2ghz all core and 4.4ghz single core boost were what I got. But 50°C idle wasnât too great.
The I turned off PBO and CPB (Asusâ thing) and suddenly the temps were fine again at idleâŚbut 3.6ghz was all I got (single and multi core).
So I re-pasted the CPU, installed the cooler properly (backed off maybe 1/16 turn when I first installed the new CPU) andâŚstuck in boot, then no boot, then freeze on login screen.
Hit the Clear CMOS button, made sure all cables and the GPU are properly pushed in. Post into Bios, default (minus some unimportant stuff) and boom, great temps and boost again.
Only thing is, a) the temps reach 72°C (max, usually 69-70°C) when I encode blurays (only tested one) and b) at 100% utilization the CPU doesnât go beyond 4.1GHz (4.0-4.1GHz) unless utilization dips, then the clock goes up a bit again.
It definitely takes some research and getting used to things, but so far I like it.
thats not too bad tho
also different temp thing than yours, since old one didnt have the offset like the x chips did, but thats why turbo to like 4 instead of the 3.6~3.7 got temp and power room available
I thought the offset is gone since zen2? only zen1/+ had it?
pretty sure still has just isnt talked about anymore since all the programs had been updated since shortly after zen launched so for most people upgrading already would be using a program can show the actual one
dunno i guess. but has much more aggressive multi core boosting/will go to like 85~90 or so before it starts to back down to the baseclock/actually start throttling
pbo on some boards drills them way higher power limits and stuff tho
mines weird since highest temp on any of the dies or something idk
maybe doesnt and thats the series switched to the like shiz load(1000 or something) sensors all over and it just does whatever highest possible one is or something, but it changes boosts and stuff way faster than zen/+, is like gpu style constantly changing stuff
Thereâs apparently also some bullshit going on with coaxing the CPU into thinking it uses less power than it actually does to achieve more performance.
I noticed that on the 3700X too. Now itâs boosting to 4.2, then back to 4.0 then below 3GHz and up to 3.7 again, then over 4.2 again. Like some ferret on coke.
Not during consistent workloads, just in random stuff.
ye resulting in heat up the a
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Finally got a USB installer set up for El Capitan, which while using USB 2.0 took⌠quite some time lol. But now that this other late 2008 MBP is going well, can start going through the other MacBook and MBPs that are here since they are pretty much all late 2008 ones. A few core duo ones that are older but those Iâll deal with later since they are more annoying for OS installs.
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Well, the iMac that turned on (only one of the 7 that did and had a working screen) has a dead hard drive. I donât know if I care enough to pull it apart lol⌠such a pita to do these. That said since itâs an older model itâs not that bad but still
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Also found this adorable little Fujitsu laptop that has XP on it, with a 933 MHz cpu. My hand for scale
Has some strange cpu in it
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thats kinda cool, translates x86
I have no fucking idea what is going on.
With all the BIOS settings at default (except fastboot & asus grid installer disabled, DOCP enabled) I was hitting 4.4GHz SC / 4.2GHz AC boosts (clean numbers, nothing rounded).
Now - with the SAME settings - I get 4.2GHz AC boost only in Ryzen Master during the stress test. Reaching a clean 4.4GHz SC boost is basically impossible, always a couple MHz short of 4.4/4.2GHz.
Itâs either some PBO stuff going on or idk.
Not saying Iâm not satisfied with the performance. Getting very close to those advertised boosts is one hell of a lot better than the measly 3.2GHz AC / 3.7GHz SC boost. Hell, even the 3.8GHz AC OC seems âweakâ now considering the 3700X beats that out of the box without having to do anything myself.
But once you see the CPU hitting those advertised speeds that seem to have been more like marketing numbers under perfect conditions, it takes a bit of the excitement off when it just doesnât go as high. VERY close (like 4.386MHz), though.
Absolutely not in the mood to OC myself.
well mine couldnt anyways since board has a low reference/base clock for some reason like 99/100 lol, but thats the thing mostly the single core will never hit outside like literally no load on anything which never happens
but multi core boost seems pretty good to me, least they never really advertised multi core boost much but it goes pretty hard, like way higher than baseclock on pretty high constant workloads like 80~95% rendering for hours
Yeah, finding what the multi core boost is supposed to be wasnât that easy. And I donât remember there being an official number from AMD.
ye dont think they advertised a whole chart or anything prolly get too busy having one for each model etc
